Questioning Transphobia

From the Denver Post:

By Monte Whaley
The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 09/27/2008 10:51:34 PM MDT

BRIGHTON — Angie Zapata’s life was becoming more complicated and dangerous by the day.

As she neared her 19th birthday, she needed to shave daily to keep up appearances. Her Adam’s apple was growing larger, an emerging tip-off that Angie was not exactly whom she claimed to be.

She was living in Greeley away from her protective older sister, Monica, and other family members for the first time. The striking, 6-foot-tall Latina began running with a bad crowd that sold drugs.

Angie was restless. She needed money for cosmetology school and for counseling to prepare her for hormone treatments so her breasts would develop.

“Every day, I was afraid for my sister,” said Monica Zapata. “The world, the way it is, most people wouldn’t accept who she was.”

Born J***** Zapata, Angie wanted to live and love as a transgender female.

Her quest for a normal life on her terms ended in July, when she was beaten to death in her one-bedroom, $300-a-month apartment.

Her alleged assailant, 31-year-old Allen Andrade of Thornton, met Angie on a dating website. He grew suspicious while looking at photographs of Angie in her apartment, according to Greeley police. He confronted her about her sexual status; she allegedly said: “I’m all woman.” Then he grabbed her crotch and felt a penis, police said.

Enraged, he first hit Angie with his fists. Then he used a fire extinguisher, hitting her up to five times, prosecutors said.

He covered her body with a blanket and left the apartment, taking a credit card belonging to Monica Zapata as well as Monica’s 2003 PT Cruiser.

Andrade faces first-degree murder and felony hate-crime charges, among others. In recorded conversations made public at Andrade’s preliminary hearing this month, he described the killing in stark terms. He said he “snapped” when he learned of Angie’s biological status and told his girlfriend, “What’s done is done.”

Andrade also told police “gay things need to die” and that he “killed it.”

There were plenty of men who found Angie attractive. Her skin was flawless and her hair, dark and flowing.

“Even without makeup, she looked like a girl, a gorgeous girl,” said another sister, Stephanie Zapata.

Angie spent hours primping, even before she reported to work as a shift manager at a local fast-food restaurant.

When she went out, she wore low-cut dresses with high skirts and size-10 pumps. “She was conceited about her looks; she always wanted to look good,” Stephanie said.

Her heart could be broken easily. She recently met a man she liked, but he wouldn’t commit because of her transgender status.

“She said she only wanted him to take her out and show her off, but he said if people found out about them, they would hurt them,” Monica said. “She said to me, ‘I’m never going to be happy.’ ”

Angie clung to her family, especially her nieces and nephews. She had a great fondness for 2-year-old Diego, her godson.

“She would buy them name-brand clothing and definitely Nike shoes. Even if she had a few dollars left, she would spend it on them,” said her friend and transgender mentor, Kitty DeLeon.

At age 5 or 6, Angie showed signs that she was uncomfortable in her masculine skin. She draped towels over her head to look more like a girl, and she quickly dropped out of sports such as soccer and baseball in favor of fixing her sisters’ hair and dabbling in makeup.

“When (our mom) cut her hair, she cried and cried because she wanted it to grow long,” Monica said.

Angie said she was molested as a child by an older relative, added Monica, and she used that to justify her feelings.

“She said that if she could attract men like that, maybe she was meant to be a woman,” Monica said.

To please her mother, Angie dressed as a boy. Once at her elementary school, she would change into girls clothing and wear makeup.

She was taunted for her looks, and it led to altercations.

“She fought two boys once and beat them up and said, ‘See, that’s what it feels like to be beaten up by a fag,’ ” Monica said.

Angie’s death was part of a rash of at least 13 violent hate crimes committed across the country in June and July.

All were aimed at gays, lesbians and transgender individuals, said Avy Skolnik, coordinator of national and statewide programs for the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs.

The incidents — including Angie’s death — fall on the heels of the Feb. 12 shooting of 15-year-old Lawrence “Larry” Fobes King at a junior high school in Oxnard, Calif. King allegedly was targeted because he began showing up to school wearing women’s accessories and clothing, high heels and makeup.

King allegedly was shot twice in the head by a fellow student, 14-year-old Brandon McInerney.

“When someone finds out that someone else is transgender, that does not justify an assault, certainly not murder,” Skolnik said.

But Andrade’s defense attorney sees it in a slightly different way. Annette Kundelius argued in her client’s preliminary hearing that Angie deceived Andrade into thinking she was biologically a female.

When he discovered the truth, he reacted violently but without premeditation, said Kundelius, who asked the presiding judge to lower the charge to second-degree murder.

“At best, this is a case about passion,” Kundelius said. “When she smiled at him, that was a highly provoking act.”

Kundelius employed a classic defense-attorney tactic known as “trans-shock,” Skolnik said. “It’s simply used by lawyers to play off the bias of jurors.”

Prosecutor Robb Miller said Andrade could have reacted like most people in the same situation — admit an embarrassing mistake and move on. “He could have lived with it,” Miller said, “but something inside him wouldn’t let him.”

Weld County District Judge Marcelo Kopcow agreed, refusing to lower the first-degree murder charge and erase the felony bias charge. The evidence, Kopcow said, clearly showed Andrade’s rage toward Angie as well as gays.

It was at age 15 that Angie officially came out as a transgender female. About then, she also met DeLeon, a transgender female who also grew up in Fort Lupton.

DeLeon, now in her 30s, sensed an inner strength in Angie that needed to be nurtured. “I wanted her to live a normal life and not a sheltered life,” DeLeon said. “I told her, ‘You know, Angie, there will always be people who will tell you you are evil and wrong. But we can’t let people tell us who we are.’ ”

Later, as Angie’s social life flourished, friends said a cellphone seemed glued to her ear.

She would talk to boys but never go out with them until they had been vetted by her sisters. She also disclosed her status to every suitor, family said. Some of her prospective dates went away angry, but others were happy to stay around, Monica said.

“She didn’t have to lie about who she was,” Monica said. “Plenty of guys liked her.”

But school became tougher for her with conflicts and fights. “She always had to protect herself at school, and it became too much of a hassle for her,” Monica said. “I think that became her excuse to quit.”

She dropped out of Fort Lupton High School in about her junior year and went to work full time, babysitting Monica’s children for $600 a month.

“She started hanging out with some bad people, people who weren’t good for her,” said Monica.

What’s left of Angie’s life — her dresses and shoes and other mementos — is displayed in a basement room at Monica’s home in Brighton.

“She loved people, and she loved going out and looking good,” Monica said. “That was important to her.”

This: “She also disclosed her status to every suitor.” To those of you who insisted upon blaming her because you believed Andrade’s story: Fuck. You.

This is mostly a sympathetic piece, but I’m going to be mean: What’s with the emphasis on her clothes and makeup? Oh, right, I totally forgot the rules for portraying trans women as hyperfeminine and hypersexualized in the media.

Also, that bit above about her trachea:

As she neared her 19th birthday, she needed to shave daily to keep up appearances. Her Adam’s apple was growing larger, an emerging tip-off that Angie was not exactly whom she claimed to be.

Angie was exactly who she claimed to be: A woman. According to the above, she disclosed to anyone who might have been a romantic interest. But this sentence betrays something else: The cissexist attitude that trans people aren’t really who we say we are, that we’re deceivers, wolves in women’s skin. This is a backhanded justification of Andrade’s defense: That Angie’s smile was provocation to kill her.

Also:

Born J***** Zapata, Angie wanted to live and love as a transgender female.

I can’t speak for Angie, and we can’t ask her, but I’d say that if her experiences were anything like mine, she wanted to live as a woman, and “transgender” only in the process for getting there.

It’s also downright insensitive and callous to print her birth name. She wanted to be known as Angie, which is why she changed her name. As with the adam’s apple comment, this only serves to undermine that her womanhood, by asserting that her pre-transition history somehow means she was really a boy.

Also:

Angie said she was molested as a child by an older relative, added Monica, and she used that to justify her feelings.

This is completely irrelevant. There’s no evidence that being trans has anything to do with being molested as a child. Gender identity is not fluid in that way. There is mounting evidence of the possibility of a biological cause for transsexualism. It is irresponsible to link child molestation to being transgender, and plays up the idea that trans people are somehow victims of our condition. It also has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your story.

I’m so tired of the press – is it that hard to treat dead trans women with respect? I know you made a good effort, but you focused on her sex life, on how long it took her to apply her makeup, and the hemlines of her skirts and dresses. What does this have to do with remembering her? If you wrote about any other murdered woman, would you fetishistically and sensationalistically focus on what she liked to wear in her day-to-day life? Insinuate that she was really a man?

From Bird of Paradox:

Previously (link here) I wrote about the court date having been set for the preliminary hearing of the trial of Allen Ray Andrade.

He is charged with first-degree murder after deliberation, bias-motivated crime, felony motor vehicle theft and felony identity theft in the death of Angie Zapata.

That hearing took place on 18 September and, according to 9news:

A Weld County district judge ruled Thursday that there is enough evidence against a man charged with killing a transgender woman to proceed with a trial.

There is coverage of the hearing in a couple of places, but the most chilling quote is in the Greeley Tribune:

A man accused of beating a transgendered woman to death told his girlfriend in a phone call that he “snapped” and that “gay things need to die.”

The phone calls made by Allen Andrade, charged in the murder of the transgender woman Angie Zapata, while in jail to his girlfriend detailed that something bad had happened and that Andrade had made a mistake.

Andrade, 31, of Thornton expressed that he was out of control, outside himself and not a coherent person the day of the murder.

The phone calls were also laden with derogatory remarks towards homosexuals, and he stated that people in jail are scared of him because of his reputation for wielding a fire extinguisher, which is the suspected murder weapon.

“Gay things need to die”.

Things.

And this… this man – has the bare-faced cheek to say he had “made a mistake”? Damn right you made a mistake, Mr Andrade. And, no, you may not use the trans panic defence.

…*breathes*…

Helen G has the full story!

via Autumn Sandeen at Pam’s House Blend.

Update: Donna Rose got on the air with Rover during his morning show, and she has posts up on her conversation here and here. Read freeper style comments by Rover listeners here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~As I’m writing this piece early August 15th, there are two stories of really dehumanizing comments by large, corporate media outlets towards trans people in the news. The more recent of the stories is from August 14th on the Fox News Channel, in which Fox aired a crude and obnoxious segment concerning the recent announcement of America’s Next Top Model: there’s going to be a transgender contestant on the show. The earlier piece is from August 13th, in which a syndicated Clear Channel Communication morning radio show referred to the recently murdered transgender teen Angie Zapata as a “man,” a “he,” a “he/she,” a “thing,” and an “it.” From GLAAD’s press release on the story from the Fox News Channel: Fox News anchor Gregg Jarrett and Us Weekly Editor-at-Large Ian Drew spent the segment gratuitously insulting the America’s Next Top Model contestant, using dehumanizing terminology, inaccurate and inappropriate pronouns and offensive references to her anatomy.While laughing and joking, Jarrett mocked Isis’ description of herself as a woman whose “cards were dealt differently,” and said, “That’s an understatement!”  Drew referred to recent instances of transgender visibility on reality television as “The Crying Game ’08,” going on to call the show “America’s Next Top Tranny.”  Drew then said that she doesn’t look any different from other contestants because “they are not exactly the most high-class group of women.”  Throughout the segment, Jarrett switched back and forth between male and female pronouns, and both Jarrett and Drew suggested that Isis “fooled” people by “blending in.”  They went on to make crude remarks about her genitalia and the pitch of her voice. Here’s the segment: [Below the fold: Fox News Channel Contact Info ; "Rover's Morning Glory" uses defamatory language to refer to hate crime murder victim Angie Zapata.]

Autumn Sandeen :: Dehumanizing Transgender Human Beings

Want to contact Fox News about this? From the GLAAD press release again: Please contact Fox News Channel and call on them to apologize for these obnoxious, insulting and dehumanizing comments.Fox News Channel Gregg Jarrett  - Anchor (212) 301-3000 gregg.jarrett@foxnews.com Jay Wallace – Executive Producer (212) 301-5168 jay.wallace@foxnews.com Tom Lowell – Senior Producer (212) 301-3000  (outlet) tom.lowell@foxnews.com Over at Donna Rose’s Donna Blog, she reports on what she heard on the radio going into work on the 13th: When I got into the car this morning to drive to work the radio was set to the local “rock” station.  There was some sort of syndicated show on – the typical schtik with 3 crass, ignorant guys and one woman who generally disagrees with the idiots.  I really didn’t think much of it until the ring leader of this little troupe decided that he wanted to talk about Angie Zapata.  That got my attention.This crew is called “Rover’s Morning Glory” and, as you might guess, the main star is Rover.  Others of his crew include Dumb, Dieter, and Chocolate Charlie. …The reason I waste my energy on these people at all is that they spent a good 15 minutes saying things that they need to be held accountable for.  They explained the Angie Zapata story in the most disgusting, vile way possible – making sure to refer to Angie as a “man”, a “he”, a “he/she”, a “thing”, and an “it”.  They explained that her murderer was justified in being angry and in killing Angie.  In fact, Rover said, if he were on the jury he’d vote to acquit.  They implied that others would be justified in similar actions, and that Angie deserved it.  It was disgusting, irresponsible, and crossed any boundary of decency. The defamatory language really would be on par with having DJ’s referring to a Matthew Sheppard as a “faggot” or a “fairy” on air, and saying they’d let his killers go if they were jurrors…It’s really as abhorant as that. The relevant contact info: WMMS– Clear Channel Cleveland 6200 Oak Tree Blvd. 4th Floor Cleveland, Ohio 44131-2510 (216) 520-2600Wanna complain? or give props? e-mail programming: Bo Matthews buzzard@wmms.com Clear Channel Corporate Phone #: Clear Channel 200 East Basse Road San Antonio, TX 78209 Phone 1-210-822-2828 By the way, if you contact Fox or Clear Channel, you probably would want to reference what the Associated Press Styleguide says in their entry on transgender, and the GLAAD Media Reference Guide’s Transgender Glossary on Defamatory Terminology.

Quoted in its completeness, with apologies to Autumn Sandeen. I don’t have the energy today to write out yet more descriptions of how people think it’s okay to dehumanize trans women, to describe us in these ways.

But if you give a damn, please please please contact the above and make complaints. This behavior should be unacceptable.

Helen G posts that Allan Andrade appeared in Weld District Court to hear the charges filed against him:

Mr Andrade is charged with first-degree murder, felony bias-motivated crime, felony motor vehicle theft and felony identity theft.

First, I hope that murder charge sticks. The fact that he hung around all day waiting to ask Angie if she was trans so he’d know that it was okay to murder strikes me as extremely premeditated. Helen has some words about the identity theft charge:

Wait, what? “Identity theft“? I do not even begin to understand the twisted logic of someone who would apparently murder a trans woman in cold blood because he did not approve of her identity – and then proceed to steal that same identity while she lay dead from the blunt-force trauma that he is believed to have dealt her.

The Greeley Tribune has the story here. We have a court date as well:

Allen Andrade, 31, charged with first-degree murder of transgender 18-year-old Angie Zapata, will appear in Weld District Court at 11:30 a.m. Aug. 26.

Read Helen’s post – I agree with all of it and can’t say any of it better right now.

Nia posts at Feministe and on her own blog:

You can support the family by making contributions to Angie Zapata’s memorial fund!
Please make donation checks payable to Monica Murquia (Angie’s sister) and mail them to the Colorado Anti-Violence Program at P.O. Box 181085, Denver, CO 80218.

Monica Roberts posts that the man who was charged with murdering Tiffany Berry on February 16, 2006, and was out on the streets on a $20,000 bail, murdered his two-year old daughter.

Police say, at the time of this arrest, Blake was out on a $20,000 bond for a Second Degree Murder charge for an incident that happened in February of 2006.

This is the consequence as treating some people as disposable, as not worthy of life. The people who kill us, who receive a slap on the wrist because killing trans women is “understandable” and can be “sympathized with” are murderers. They kill human beings – trans women, their own daughters. If you let them walk the streets because they kill someone you approve of killing, their next victim may be not be so convenient to you.

As Monica says:

TransGriot Note: As Dr. King stated, we are in an inescapable network of mutuality. For those of you who continue to ignore the fact that transgender people are part of the human family and that crimes committed against us should get the same swift and sure punishment that you accord anyone else, here’s a reminder of what some of the possible consequences can be to society if you don’t.

More at Out & About – Tennessee News.

Holly posted this brilliant explanation in response to Cara’s post about Angie Zapata of how the trans panic defense is used to get a lighter sentence when it is often not even true:

Cara’s last post raises something extremely important that we should all be aware of:

“Deception” is the commonly told and commonly believed story in cases like this, but further investigation and examination of the facts has OFTEN suggested it’s a smokescreen.

Lisa links to a couple examples, and there are more. Seriously, don’t let anyone sell you the usual line that “oh, she tricked him and then he freaked out and killed her.” For one thing, even if that was the case, the appropriate reaction is not to kill someone. But more importantly, it’s often totally fabricated. But everyone just believes it because it’s so “plausible.” It’s the entire audience of listeners to these stories that need to wise up. Tell your friends. Here are some important points:

1) in quite a few of these cases, witnesses, friends, and continued investigation have attested that the murderers had an ongoing relationship with the victim, to the extent that it was quite unlikely they didn’t know about their trans status;

2) trans women, even young trans women, are not total fucking idiots. Especially the ones who have experience, who lived to see adulthood and have had to survive on the streets. Trans women know the risks associated with sex partners who aren’t aware of our status. Trans women are, by and large, experts at judging and negotiating this kind of situation. Part of the reason many community advocates think the ongoing wave of “trans panic” crimes involve bogus stories is that most trans women, sex workers included, make sure that potential sex partners are not confused as hell about what’s going on. Unfortunately, that doesn’t eliminate the unpredictable violent psychopaths of the world.

3) The victims of these murders are DEAD and cannot tell their side of the story. Seriously — Andrade killed her, he confessed it. He knows what kind of story is likely to elicit the most sympathy from other straight guys, and he’s telling it. He even included details about “she wouldn’t let me touch her, but she gave me a blow job.” This whole scenario is a classic myth — which doesn’t mean it never happens, but when the murderer is caught red-handed and then proceeds to give the most “sympathetic sob story,” why the hell does everyone believe him? Because most people find it impossible to identify with the victim, and far too easy to identify with the killer of a “thing.”This needs to change, but the dead cannot speak for themselves, cannot persuade people to empathize and listen. It’s up to the rest of us.

As for the whole “hate crime” crap, it plays into people’s ridiculous idea of what motivates other types of hate crimes as well. They’re thinking of cold-blooded strategizing Klansmen, not killers who freak out because they have emotional and mental problems related to race, or gender, or sexuality. But of course a lot of feelings of irrational hatred — for any group of people — are tied up with the killer’s own twisted, distorted feelings about all of that and how they see themselves fitting into the world. What’s truly disgusting is that people are just buying Andrade’s classic story, regardless of whether it’s true or not, and many patterns from similar cases in the past suggest it’s likely not true.

For that matter, Cara’s post goes into some detail about why this murder is a hate crime, whether or not Andrade’s stereotypical deception narrative is true:

“Duped.” “Fooled.” “Not a classic hate crime.” Why isn’t it a classic hate crime? The argument doesn’t hold up — the defendant did kill Zapata because of her gender identity. He sexually assaulted a woman, in the process discovered that she was transgender, and as a direct result he chose to beat her to death. Ergo, he killed her because she was trans, and this is not hard to follow logic. So allow me to translate. What Robinson really means is: “This is not a classic hate crime, because this time the defendant had a good reason.”

There’s no other way to put it. There’s no other reason to use language like “duped” and “fooled.” There’s no other reason to use this as an argument unless you’re trying to show that there was an understandable, if “irrational” reason for the murder. (Note that most of Robinson’s remarks are reasonable if inexcusably-phrased guesses about how the defense attorneys will behave, but the last paragraph seems to be his own opinion.) Usually, when one is trying to convince people that a crime was not a hate crime, they’d argue that the crime was committed for reasons other than the victim’s race/sexual orientation/gender identity/etc. This time, it is widely acknowledged that the reason was indeed Zapata’s gender identity, thus making one believe it to certainly be a hate crime (in jurisdictions where such a law is actually on the books). But it’s “not a classic hate crime” because this kind of hate is supposed to be considered justified.

This list is far from complete. If I miss someone, please tell me.

Transgriot: Arrest Made in Zapata Killing. Also, Monica covered this story before just about anyone else. She usually does.

A Secret Chord: This Shouldn’t Need to Be Said

Asperger Sqaure 8: Murdered Woman Called “It”

Burning Words: Angie Zapata’s Killer Arrested

Ideologically Impure: Trannies! Send Backup!

The Strangest Alchemy: Another young trans woman murdered…

Season of the Bitch: Angie Zapata, More on Violence Against Trans Women

La Chola: More on Angie Zapata’s Murder

Guanabee: Arrest Made in Transgender Teen Murder Case

Shakesville: RIP Angie Zapata

Bastante Already: Angie

The Bilerico Project: Murderer of Young Transwoman Says He Killed “It”

Uppity Brown Woman: Friday Night is Rage Night: The Sex Edition

Cara cross-posting to the Curvature.

Womanist Musings: Her Name Was Angie Zapata

RIP Angie Zapata

Safer Campus: It’s Still A Hate Crime If You “Panic”

Pam’s House Blend: Arrest In Killing of Angie Zapata

Fetch Me My Axe: The Murder of Angie Zapata: Why “It” Matters

NGBlog: Victims of Hate

In Memory of Angie Zapata

The Donna Blog

Susan’s Place Transgender Forums

Nick Kiddle: Hate Crime

Fire in the Bamboo: The Murder of Angie Zapata – This last has a paragraph I’d like to quote:

DeAndre Blake is another trans-person murderer. He killed Tiffany Berry in 2006. He that claimed “she deserved it,” for the crime of touching him, and being a trans-person. The judge in Tennessee let him out of jail on a $20,000 bond, apparently lenient because the victim was “only” a trans-person. In August, 2008, still out on bond, Blake murdered his own two-year-old daughter.

Link altered to TransGriot’s post on the same story – one in which she uses the correct name and pronouns, unlike the story linked from Fire in the Bamboo.

La Chola: A thought… – This one is important. Brownfemipower addresses the fact that Angie was a latina woman, and how people have been talking about her with regards to that:

So why is it just a given that “it”–that the dehumanization of Zapata–is not necessarily intertwined with and dependent upon her identity as a Latina? That is, would the panic defense be so easy to get away with if Angie wasn’t Latina? Would she be so easy to turn into “it” if we U.S. citizens weren’t already perfectly aware that Latin@s are people who could “trick” us if we aren’t careful? Even more to the point, would it have been so easy to kill Angie Zapata if she weren’t a Latina living in a country that actively criminalizes and dehumanizes people who look, sound, and have names similar to Angie’s?

Do you know how many comments I have read on articles that discuss Angie’s murder that bring up her citizenship status? Nobody knows how she could have afforded a car and an apt without a job. I’ve seen nothing that either confirms, denies or otherwise discusses her job status in the media–but apparently a lack of information means that it’s reasonable to assume criminality–a specific type of criminality that literally positions an entire body: cells, tissue, heart, hair, skin, fingers, teeth, gentiles, as “illegal,” as “criminal,” as “wrong,” as ‘better of not existing.”

Intersections are unavoidable, and I should have mentioned that. But yes, most trans women who are murdered are trans women of color – black and latina – and race absolutely plays into this.

So, in addition to discrediting Angie with the trans panic “She tricked me, defense!” what about

And if somehow, Angie’s murderer has lawyers that managed to throw some doubt on her citizenship status or the citizenship status of her family–will a jury of Angie’s peers, a jury comprised of people who may or may not have helped to vote some of the strictest anti-immigrant legislation in the nation into law–will they care?

I know what I hope will happen, and I know what I believe will happen, and I can’t express how much I wish the latter were the same as the former.

Brownfemipower also quotes Holly (the comment I quoted in this post) here.

Monster’s Creed: Triggers: Angie, May You Rest in Peace with Those Who Respect You

Every Body Matters: The Murder of Angie Zapata

Sweet Perdition: OMG! I’ve found the “Transgender Agenda”!

Bird of Paradox: Don’t Panic – Covers Larry King as well as Angie Zapata.

Dreaming of Butterflies: Getting Political – Angie Zapata

Corvid Diary: Angie Zapata should still be here

Uncool: “he thought he’d killed it”

Bastard Logic: On Bleeding Language of All Meaning

Mortality’s Thoughts: Fucked Up!

Modern Mitzvot: Angie Zapata

To to a T: Gender Journeys – Transsexual Deceivers

Traningrad: Better Late than Never – Primarily about the murder of Rosa Pazos

Daisy’s Dead Air

Flight Papers: It would be nice to think that we actually had respect for the dead, also posted at punkassblog.com

Just Another Opinionated Trannie: This is Serious and Angie Zapata