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		<title>Comment on Transphobic Tropes #6 &#8211; Transition is Mutilation by Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this post is old as the hills, and my comment is irrelevant in the bigger picture, but I&#039;m saying things anyways.

This trope has come into play so many times in my life.  I am a man who is transsexual--and I am also an unrepentant self-injurer, a lapsed anorexic and a former quote-unquote masculine girl.  Medical transition is my primary goal, to have as close to a cismale physical body as is currently possible.  This process has been riddled with setbacks and complications which I can&#039;t begin to understand--as close to Hell On Earth as I hope no one else has to experience.

So, looking at the basis of this hateful trope, necessary surgery is defined as self-harm.  But what is self-harm?  The common definition is causing physical injury to oneself to alleviate emotional pain.  Are the transphobes trying to say that physical dysphoria is not emotional pain?  Are they seriously trying to deny that being shackled to a physical form with incongruous invasive elements is not and/or cannot cause emotional suffering that requires the risk of tissue damage to abate?  

If medical transition is self-injury, and self-injury is wounding oneself to alleviate internal agony, then they are also condemning victims of FGM who seek labiaplasty.  They are condemning women whose fathers throw acid on their faces for failing to conform to rigid norms, and who seek reconstructive surgery.  They are condemning men whose phalluses are severed or crushed by hateful spouses, or other men with scores to settle, or land mines in war zones.

No surgery is without risk.  No medical treatment is perfect, or one hundred percent safe, or pleasant or easy.  For anyone.  Cancer, for instance, is natural by their definition.  You don&#039;t hear anyone saying that tumor surgery or chemotherapy is unnatural or self-harmful, though.  And chemotherapy causes much more pain and disruption than HRT or surgery on one&#039;s physical sex characteristics.

It baffles me, how narcissistic people can be WRT forcing their experiences of their own body on others.  What defines &quot;mutilation?&quot;  Why should we have to define surgical transition in opposition to some other concept?  Cutters might cut because it&#039;s the only thing that works for them, to be a happy and whole person.  Non-cutters don&#039;t have a right, IMO, to call them sick and crazy just because they don&#039;t understand and it&#039;s socially unacceptable.  And how dare they try and invalidate a person&#039;s gender identity because that person happens to cut.

The entire concept of &quot;mutilation&quot; begins and ends with subjective experience.  To me, shaving my armpits was mutilation, as did cutting my hair short.  It felt like I had torn off a necessary part of me.  To many people, though, it feels neutral and non-eventful.  (It did to my mother, at the time.  She was the one who forced me to shave my pits.)  Thus, few people acknowledge that as mutilating.  Why?  Because it&#039;s &quot;normal.&quot;  Like breast implants are &quot;normal,&quot; but mastectomy isn&#039;t.  Therefore implants are defined as healthy and removal is defined as mutilation.  

My hysterectomy was the healthiest thing I&#039;d done in a long time.  I felt so good once that organ was a relic of the past.  Why is that mutilation, as opposed to other things?  And I even had PMDD to the point I didn&#039;t want to be alive anymore.  The PMDD made me obese as well.  All of that was gone after those internal organs were excised.  So why did others have to pathologize me for it?  Why did they have to insinuate that I was &quot;running away from myself,&quot; or causing harm that I would regret?  The surgeries I&#039;ve had aren&#039;t additive or new, it just feels like I&#039;m closer to okay.  One less thing to think about.

So pretty much, they try to say trans people don&#039;t exist BECAUSE of coping mechanisms those same trans people use to SURVIVE BEING TRANS IN THIS WORLD.  What kind of circular logic brainfart sack of idiocy is that?  The house always wins because the house always wins because the house always

Oh, forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this post is old as the hills, and my comment is irrelevant in the bigger picture, but I&#8217;m saying things anyways.</p>
<p>This trope has come into play so many times in my life.  I am a man who is transsexual&#8211;and I am also an unrepentant self-injurer, a lapsed anorexic and a former quote-unquote masculine girl.  Medical transition is my primary goal, to have as close to a cismale physical body as is currently possible.  This process has been riddled with setbacks and complications which I can&#8217;t begin to understand&#8211;as close to Hell On Earth as I hope no one else has to experience.</p>
<p>So, looking at the basis of this hateful trope, necessary surgery is defined as self-harm.  But what is self-harm?  The common definition is causing physical injury to oneself to alleviate emotional pain.  Are the transphobes trying to say that physical dysphoria is not emotional pain?  Are they seriously trying to deny that being shackled to a physical form with incongruous invasive elements is not and/or cannot cause emotional suffering that requires the risk of tissue damage to abate?  </p>
<p>If medical transition is self-injury, and self-injury is wounding oneself to alleviate internal agony, then they are also condemning victims of FGM who seek labiaplasty.  They are condemning women whose fathers throw acid on their faces for failing to conform to rigid norms, and who seek reconstructive surgery.  They are condemning men whose phalluses are severed or crushed by hateful spouses, or other men with scores to settle, or land mines in war zones.</p>
<p>No surgery is without risk.  No medical treatment is perfect, or one hundred percent safe, or pleasant or easy.  For anyone.  Cancer, for instance, is natural by their definition.  You don&#8217;t hear anyone saying that tumor surgery or chemotherapy is unnatural or self-harmful, though.  And chemotherapy causes much more pain and disruption than HRT or surgery on one&#8217;s physical sex characteristics.</p>
<p>It baffles me, how narcissistic people can be WRT forcing their experiences of their own body on others.  What defines &#8220;mutilation?&#8221;  Why should we have to define surgical transition in opposition to some other concept?  Cutters might cut because it&#8217;s the only thing that works for them, to be a happy and whole person.  Non-cutters don&#8217;t have a right, IMO, to call them sick and crazy just because they don&#8217;t understand and it&#8217;s socially unacceptable.  And how dare they try and invalidate a person&#8217;s gender identity because that person happens to cut.</p>
<p>The entire concept of &#8220;mutilation&#8221; begins and ends with subjective experience.  To me, shaving my armpits was mutilation, as did cutting my hair short.  It felt like I had torn off a necessary part of me.  To many people, though, it feels neutral and non-eventful.  (It did to my mother, at the time.  She was the one who forced me to shave my pits.)  Thus, few people acknowledge that as mutilating.  Why?  Because it&#8217;s &#8220;normal.&#8221;  Like breast implants are &#8220;normal,&#8221; but mastectomy isn&#8217;t.  Therefore implants are defined as healthy and removal is defined as mutilation.  </p>
<p>My hysterectomy was the healthiest thing I&#8217;d done in a long time.  I felt so good once that organ was a relic of the past.  Why is that mutilation, as opposed to other things?  And I even had PMDD to the point I didn&#8217;t want to be alive anymore.  The PMDD made me obese as well.  All of that was gone after those internal organs were excised.  So why did others have to pathologize me for it?  Why did they have to insinuate that I was &#8220;running away from myself,&#8221; or causing harm that I would regret?  The surgeries I&#8217;ve had aren&#8217;t additive or new, it just feels like I&#8217;m closer to okay.  One less thing to think about.</p>
<p>So pretty much, they try to say trans people don&#8217;t exist BECAUSE of coping mechanisms those same trans people use to SURVIVE BEING TRANS IN THIS WORLD.  What kind of circular logic brainfart sack of idiocy is that?  The house always wins because the house always wins because the house always</p>
<p>Oh, forget it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transgender People and Bullying by [link] Arkansas School Official Wishes Death on Gay Youth &#171; slendermeans</title>
		<link>http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=3231&#038;cpage=1#comment-456352</link>
		<dc:creator>[link] Arkansas School Official Wishes Death on Gay Youth &#171; slendermeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] media attention, and that most of the publicity has surrounded the loss of white gay men to the exclusion of trans* youth, bisexual and lesbian youth, and queer youth of color. There were also criticisms of Spirit Day [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stuff cis people say to trans people by Kristy</title>
		<link>http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=3958&#038;cpage=1#comment-454822</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh... thank you for the primer on &quot;shit not to say&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230; thank you for the primer on &#8220;shit not to say&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cis is hostile terminology? Really? by Response to Advanced Dialogues and Discourse &#171; The World We Live In</title>
		<link>http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=1555&#038;cpage=6#comment-454273</link>
		<dc:creator>Response to Advanced Dialogues and Discourse &#171; The World We Live In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post that appeared on Pam’s House Blend in 2009 drew a lot of criticism when the blogger threatened to ban comments that defended the use of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Transphobic Tropes #3 – “Reifying Gender” by Stephanie Barbé Hammer</title>
		<link>http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-440949</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Barbé Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for this very clear, yet complex post.  As an older person, I&#039;ve missed many of the more recent debates around gender and sexual identity (I don&#039;t know the Millot book, for example), and I appreciate being brought up to date in such a lucid, nuanced, and generous way.  thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for this very clear, yet complex post.  As an older person, I&#8217;ve missed many of the more recent debates around gender and sexual identity (I don&#8217;t know the Millot book, for example), and I appreciate being brought up to date in such a lucid, nuanced, and generous way.  thank you again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transphobic Tropes  #1 – “Really” A Man/Woman by Why is this &#8220;disclosure&#8221; &#8220;debate&#8221; still a thing? &#124; Kiri 4.0</title>
		<link>http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=152&#038;cpage=1#comment-427779</link>
		<dc:creator>Why is this &#8220;disclosure&#8221; &#8220;debate&#8221; still a thing? &#124; Kiri 4.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and arguments based in absurdities such as, &#8220;Every cell in your body is male!&#8221; or, &#8220;Wearing a dress doesn&#8217;t change who you really are!&#8221;If you&#8217;re trans* (and especially if your presentation tends to be binary), you&#8217;ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and arguments based in absurdities such as, &#8220;Every cell in your body is male!&#8221; or, &#8220;Wearing a dress doesn&#8217;t change who you really are!&#8221;If you&#8217;re trans* (and especially if your presentation tends to be binary), you&#8217;ve [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trans friendly Rape Survivors Resources? by Estelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DC Rape Crisis Center http://www.dcrcc.org/ is also trans friendly, and has been at least since I volunteered there in 1991.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DC Rape Crisis Center <a href="http://www.dcrcc.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcrcc.org/</a> is also trans friendly, and has been at least since I volunteered there in 1991.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Josie Romero: daughter, sister, trans child by Sheila Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Josie, I love you!! any mom would be proud to call you her daughter.. Be good, love your mom always.. ok..</description>
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		<title>Comment on Trans friendly Rape Survivors Resources? by Trans friendly Rape Survivors Resources? at Questioning Transphobia &#124; I&#039;m not a boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trans friendly Rape Survivors Resources? at Questioning Transphobia &#124; I&#039;m not a boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Transphobic Tropes #4 – “My Theories Are More Important Than Your Experience” by Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;trans women are continually posited as naïve in feminist arguments, as though we couldn’t have possibly read any feminist theory, understood it, and still find it problematic to describe our experience.  Or heaven forbid, be a trans academic or writer like Susan Stryker, Jay Prosser, Viviane Namaste, Julia Serano or Sandy Stone&quot;

This. Whenever I read anything by transphobes, they seem to frame whatever they&#039;ve got to say about us from the angle of &quot;poor trannies, they have no idea what they&#039;re on about&quot;. It doesn&#039;t seem to matter to them that many of us have written books, articles and PhD theses on transsexualism - we can still never understand it as well as cis people can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;trans women are continually posited as naïve in feminist arguments, as though we couldn’t have possibly read any feminist theory, understood it, and still find it problematic to describe our experience.  Or heaven forbid, be a trans academic or writer like Susan Stryker, Jay Prosser, Viviane Namaste, Julia Serano or Sandy Stone&#8221;</p>
<p>This. Whenever I read anything by transphobes, they seem to frame whatever they&#8217;ve got to say about us from the angle of &#8220;poor trannies, they have no idea what they&#8217;re on about&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t seem to matter to them that many of us have written books, articles and PhD theses on transsexualism &#8211; we can still never understand it as well as cis people can.</p>
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